Fep Quest.

[Evil_Gunner]

Anyone have a FEP quest on these forums? if so tell me how it is, im hoping to buy one in a month or so.

[bballryand316]

Lack of posts FTL.

Quests are superior to almost any gun available today, and are a lot cheaper.

[Evil_Gunner]

i cant wait till their new guns come out. i wanna test fire those bad boys.

[bballryand316]

Do you currently have a Quest?

And I can't wait either, but the $1000 + doesn't help much....

[Evil_Gunner]

no but im getting one soon, i have an ion right now. Got it very cheap from a friend (150 with tank and hopper). i have shot one before though, and they shoot very nicely.

[maldon007]

Quests are superior to almost any gun available today, and are a lot cheaper.
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How do you figure?

[bballryand316]

How do you figure?
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Efficiency, speed, easE of maintenance. Also, being lighter than most guns (Under 2 pounds).

What makes one gun better than the rest?

[maldon007]

Efficiency, speed, easE of maintenance. Also, being lighter than most guns (Under 2 pounds).

What makes one gun better than the rest?
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Over 2 lb - 3oz. with the barrle... my ion is lighter.
Capped at 23 bps... my ion is faster.
Costs $750... my ion was cheaper.

Yea, I have a bunch of ups, but still didnt cost $750... and if plastic bothers you, the mini is lighter, smaller & costs way less, and only one pbs slower.

So really it would be hard to say its superior to almost any gun available today, and are a lot cheaper... cause its not.

[bballryand316]

Have you ever used one/owned one?

Ion 200
Body 50
Frame 150
Trigger 30
Detents 15
Good Reg 50
Bolt 40
Feedneck 25

That's with some common ups for the nicer Ions, coming out to $560.
Add a Virtue for $130 more, and a barrel equivalent to a 007 Barrel, and the price is the same pretty much.



Quest > Any Ion in performance.

Weight = 1 pound, 14 ounces

Quests will be more reliable and much more efficient.

Some LPR pressures have gotten to around 20PSI shooting at 300FPS, once broken in.

Paintball is not all about speed. If it was, every pro team in the world would all want Proto Sponsorships to attempt to run a PMR at 30 BPS with a Pulse and RF Chip........

[maldon007]

1. Quests are not more reliable, there have been many problems... my bud used to coach the raiders, so I know.

2. The weight you quote is without barrel... not that a few oz. is a big deal.. its just not the lightest gun, so drop that. It weighs over 2 lb.s with the barrel, there are a few lighter.

3. I have shot the gun, I was at the field when my bud was checking one out for the team.

4. You dont need all that stuff to make an ion perform at the same level or better than a quest... t-board, qev, l7 bolt, and barrel kit... and whatever pretty stuff you like. But really only $250 or so to get the performance.... less if you buy used.

5. LPR pressure doesnt really mean anything... My ion's operating pressure is lower than a quest, but thats just not really that important... with a qev, l7 and proper tuning, the ion is about the same eficiency.

Im not really saying an upped ion is better... just at least equal in performance, so saying that the quest is the "best gun" is just silly... there is just no great advantage it has over other good guns.

[bballryand316]

1. Quests are not more reliable, there have been many problems... my bud used to coach the raiders, so I know.

2. The weight you quote is without barrel... not that a few oz. is a big deal.. its just not the lightest gun, so drop that. It weighs over 2 lb.s with the barrel, there are a few lighter.

3. I have shot the gun, I was at the field when my bud was checking one out for the team.

4. You dont need all that stuff to make an ion perform at the same level or better than a quest... t-board, qev, l7 bolt, and barrel kit... and whatever pretty stuff you like. But really only $250 or so to get the performance.... less if you buy used.

5. LPR pressure doesnt really mean anything... My ion's operating pressure is lower than a quest, but thats just not really that important... with a qev, l7 and proper tuning, the ion is about the same eficiency.

Im not really saying an upped ion is better... just at least equal in performance, so saying that the quest is the "best gun" is just silly... there is just no great advantage it has over other good guns.
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Well, with that logic, what is the best gun ever, and why?

Ion = 17BPS
Etek = 15.4BPS
Ion = 200
Etek = 550

So is an Ion > Etek?

1. What problems did you encounter?

2. Mini = 1.94 pounds, which is more than a Quest, I believe. Both without barrels. Very few guns will be lighter.

3. When you shot it, the coach was checking it out - Meaning it had a problem that the player couldn't fix? Shooting a gun while it's having an error doesn't exactly make that particular one a great ambassador for that specific model.

4. It was to make it feel nicer as well as performance. Those are just upgrades you see on some of the most upgraded Ions you'll find; but then the owners still feel it doesn't compete with higher end guns (Matrix, Quest, Ego) and they still sell them.

5. LPR pressure has to do with kick. Quests have less kick than an 06 Ego, and are roughly the same weight, I believe.

Honestly, I've had 5 Ions, and none compare to the Quest.

[maldon007]

Well, with that logic, what is the best gun ever, and why?

Ion = 17BPS
Etek = 15.4BPS
Ion = 200
Etek = 550

So is an Ion > Etek?

1. What problems did you encounter?

2. Mini = 1.94 pounds, which is more than a Quest, I believe. Both without barrels. Very few guns will be lighter.

3. When you shot it, the coach was checking it out - Meaning it had a problem that the player couldn't fix? Shooting a gun while it's having an error doesn't exactly make that particular one a great ambassador for that specific model.

4. It was to make it feel nicer as well as performance. Those are just upgrades you see on some of the most upgraded Ions you'll find; but then the owners still feel it doesn't compete with higher end guns (Matrix, Quest, Ego) and they still sell them.

5. LPR pressure has to do with kick. Quests have less kick than an 06 Ego, and are roughly the same weight, I believe.

Honestly, I've had 5 Ions, and none compare to the Quest.
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LPR doesnt have a direct coralation to kick... the weight of the moving parts has way more to do with it, l7 bolt is as light as anything.

The problems the raiders had with the guns were mainly board problems... the gun worked fine when he was testing it, the problems showed up later, when they got penalties for shooting over 15bps... while the guns were only shooting 12-13 average. They also had some chopping problems to... not sure if those boards are still the ones being put in guns now... but they were not good.

I think they are fine guns... but claiming they are the "best"is just not going to fly.

[bballryand316]

Go back; I never had said they were the "Absolute best"

The only guns better:

DM7
EGO 7
07 Borg
Very few others

[maldon007]

Lack of posts FTL.

Quests are superior to almost any gun available today, and are a lot cheaper.
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Supirior to means better than... Almost any gunavailable... there are not really that many guns in the "high-end class", and you have named 3 you admit are better, and say "very few others" which would mean there are at least a few more that are.

So from the handfull of high end guns... you have listed 3 and alude to a few more that are better than the quest... and you must admit just on stats there are a few others that are equal....

So the statement that the quest is "superior to almost any gun available today" is hard to support... Not even mentioning the problems there have been with the gun.

I would never say its not a great gun... especially if the board problems have been fixed, or if you get a new board. The design is solid, a very efficient spool valve more or less... gun feels very solid to, I liked the stock trigger... barrel... general feel, but like I said...still seems like a flat sided shocker... but a tad bigger.


Anyway, if you think its better than almost every other gun... cool, I will have to say its your opinion & leave it at that.

[bballryand316]

Supirior to means better than... Almost any gunavailable... there are not really that many guns in the "high-end class", and you have named 3 you admit are better, and say "very few others" which would mean there are at least a few more that are.

So from the handfull of high end guns... you have listed 3 and alude to a few more that are better than the quest... and you must admit just on stats there are a few others that are equal....

So the statement that the quest is "superior to almost any gun available today" is hard to support... Not even mentioning the problems there have been with the gun.

I would never say its not a great gun... especially if the board problems have been fixed, or if you get a new board. The design is solid, a very efficient spool valve more or less... gun feels very solid to, I liked the stock trigger... barrel... general feel, but like I said...still seems like a flat sided shocker... but a tad bigger.
Anyway, if you think its better than almost every other gun... cool, I will have to say its your opinion & leave it at that.
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The board problems are most likely the Gen. 3 WAS boards. Luckily, I have a different board in mine.

A few others - Meaning maybe 2-4 more.

There's LOTS of guns in the same range.

Comparing a $700 gun with a $1200 gun isn't exactly showing much. Why is the $400 PMR better than the $200 Spyder? It's on the same concept.

For the money, used or new, you will be hard pressed to find a better gun than a Quest.

[Evil_Gunner]

i would like to quote rob.. although i cannot find the exact post

"Every gun out there shoots the same... some just do it more efficiently than others."

i think there is no "best gun" it all depends on what a person wants in a marker. The reason i would rather have a quest instead of a shocker is because they are used by my fav. team, its not used by everyone like the shocker is, and its one of the most efficient spoolies out there, about the same efficiency as the ion (about 1200 shots per fill), add a gold member bol and you'll be shooting almost a whole case of paint before refilling.

right now i have an ion to keep me playing untill i can get a quest... and if i want to, after i get my quest i can sell it and make some money off of it.

ill have pics up as soon as my email stops being gay.

[hickhater101]

u guys make me laugh with the argueing...but i will have to agree with maldon here as far as how little u can do to an ion to make it keep up with a high end gun

[bballryand316]

u guys make me laugh with the argueing...but i will have to agree with maldon here as far as how little u can do to an ion to make it keep up with a high end gun
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Funny. Coincidentally, you also have one. :lol:

I've had many Ions, all upgraded. I used to believe the same thing.

[Evil_Gunner]

ug the more i fiddle around with my ion the more i remember why i hated it. soo much work just to get the bolt out to clean it.

[bballryand316]

Yes, it is. I dislike the banjo fittings, and having to reconnect hoses.

[galeru]

i dont know much about paintball, but you got to think about it. Even if you got the best gun, it doesn't mean you will win every single game, especially if you don't know what your doing. So even someone with a simple pump can win against someone with the best gun out, considering the guy with the pump is skilled, and the guy with the best gun out is hot headed, and a rich brat who has never played pb before. So all inall, paintball efficiency all comes down to the player, not 100% gun.

[Evil_Gunner]

that may be but there are more skilled paintball players with high end guns than rich noobs with high end guns, every bit counts, when you have been playing a while with other people who have been playing for a while, the gun does count. Im not talking about like an ego v.s a shocker or a quest v.s dm6 but if your facing equaly skilled people against eachother it will matter.

[galeru]

lol well yes if your equally skilled =P but if your not, then its a different story =)

[Evil_Gunner]

eh, still comparing high end guns to low end is just stupid, no matter how much skill the person has. the gun itself is still going to be better/worse.

id take a quest over a cheap pump from walmart anyday :P

[p-ballplaya1440]

Quest Discription from actionvillage

Product Description
Features:

Designed with the player in mind, it's sleek compact appearance is not only aesthetically appealing, but functional as well
Slider frame offers 2 positions for the player to choose from, a forward set of frame holes for the front player in mind, or a further back set for all the back players out there.
Trigger guard is enlarged to fit any sized hands on the triggers sweet spot
Spot Trigger comes fully adjustable and equipped with bearings and a magnetic return
Capable of 23bps
Will get up to 1500 shots out of a 68/4500psi N2 tank
Autococker barrel threads
Integrated snatch grip
Programmable board including NXL, PSP, and standard semi-auto modes
Clamping feed neck
Breakbeam anti chop eyes
2 piece internal bolt/pin combo, making maintenance and repair a breeze
Operates on 1 9 volt battery
Height: 7.5 inches
Weight: 2 lbs. 3 oz. with barrel
Operates on 220psi
14 inch .690 2 piece barrel with 7" control bore

Invert Mini Description from actionvillage

Product Description
Features:

Weighs in at 1.99 lbs including barrel, ASA, 9 volt battery, and regulator, making it one of the lightest and tightest electronic markers available
Outstanding velocity consistency
Break beam anti-chop eyes standard
Multi-mode (NXL, PSP, NPPL, and Millennium) firing capability with easy "tournament lockout"
Clamping feed neck
Cocker barrel threads
No hoses to crimp or break
One year limited warranty through National Paintball

no way that a quest is lighter than a mini. I have a mini, my cousin has a quest. i have held them both at the same time, and the mini was way lighter. this info from AV just backs that up

[bballryand316]

You posted the Quest weight at the same as a Mini. 1.99 pounds. That's with the Quest having a battery.

[p-ballplaya1440]

wtf??? it says in my other post that quests are 2 lbs, 3 oz w. barrel

mini is 1.99 with barrel and battery

[checkerz]

You posted the Quest weight at the same as a Mini. 1.99 pounds. That's with the Quest having a battery.
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