DM4 or Karnivior

[jigalo]

I cant decide what gun to get what i want to know is if i should get a brand new DM4 or a new Karnivior

[PaintballinnTGP1608]

I would have to choose Dm4. Hmm, intresting, a topic that doesnt involve an Ion.

[yellowpumpguy]

I'd suggest the DM4. Cockers can be finiky sometimes and unless you like tinkering with it all the time I wouldn't get it.

[joeyk803c]

Personal Preference. Try and hold both. They are both great markers. Fast, and reliable. I would go with the Karni but is b/c I don't like the looks of the Dm4

[tl+]

shoot both, at least hold both.

[Louis33]

I would go with the karnivor

[PaintballinnTGP1608]

A-cockers are way to high maitenence.

[tl+]

Originally posted by PaintballinnTGP1608@Jun 8 2005, 07:46 PM
A-cockers are way to high maitenence.

15832


whats an a cocker? e cockers are less maintenence too if thats what you meant.

[P-StormSnakeMan]

Originally posted by tl+@Jun 8 2005, 11:03 PM
whats an a cocker? e cockers are less maintenence too if thats what you meant.

15859

an a cocker, "autococker"

[aerospark]

The Karny is lighter. The DM is easier to tech. If you know how to shoot a cocker then the Karny is by far the better choice. Much more accurate. I would take it over the DM any day.

[flarkey52]

HAHA, Karni more accurate?? I don't really see how you can possibly get anymore accurate than a DM4 in the first place..

DM4 are much quiter, they kick MUCH less, MUCH easier to take care of, don't have that retarded block coming back... I guess the only way to choose is to try out both, but matrixes of any kind are definately the way to go.

[aerospark]

sorry, but most cockers are naturally more accurate then other markers. It is more accurate then the dm4 because of it's forward bolt firing. People often times don't admit to this though because of the corprate brainwashing that goes on.

[Spike511]

:lol: No KARNIVOR :angry: t=its like the best

[Tippmann07]

Originally posted by flarkey52@Jun 9 2005, 07:50 AM
HAHA, Karni more accurate?? I don't really see how you can possibly get anymore accurate than a DM4 in the first place..

DM4 are much quiter, they kick MUCH less, MUCH easier to take care of, don't have that retarded block coming back... I guess the only way to choose is to try out both, but matrixes of any kind are definately the way to go.

16037



I agree, My friend traded his viking for a karni, and quickly traded that for a dm4... so that says something karni couldnt rip at all... had more kick then my dm4 and was less accurate...or maybe it was just me him and the other 5 ppl on the team...hmm :rolleyes:

i got yo back flarkey dm4 shooters band together :P

[aerospark]

I have a worrbladed Orracle that can rip the same as a dm. You just have to know how to tech it and tune it right. Most people don't know what their doing with cockers. The DM is easier to rip on stock, but if you know what your doing with a cocker they both perform the same.

[MAGGPAINTBALLER]

DM4

i love simple responses

[Nocturne]

Originally posted by aerospark@Jun 9 2005, 03:21 PM
I have a worrbladed Orracle that can rip the same as a dm. You just have to know how to tech it and tune it right. Most people don't know what their doing with cockers. The DM is easier to rip on stock, but if you know what your doing with a cocker they both perform the same.

16227

with you on that one is you dont tune your cocker the DM is gonna be better but once you have it tuned to perfection it will wipe the floor with the DM...and i dont mean upgrade upgrading it will completely irrdaicate the DM4...prolly just the cocker owner talking right now but yea =P

[aerospark]

yep, you know what I'm talking about. I use my cocker when I have to play back. It would tear the dm a new one. Especially on air efficiency.

[joeyk803c]

Originally posted by Tippmann07@Jun 9 2005, 11:04 AM
I agree, My friend traded his viking for a karni, and quickly traded that for a dm4... so that says something karni couldnt rip at all... had more kick then my dm4 and was less accurate...or maybe it was just me him and the other 5 ppl on the team...hmm* :rolleyes:

i got yo back flarkey dm4 shooters band together* :P

16107



Your friend doesn't know to to set-up a cocker then.

Cockers are no more accurate than anyother marker. Cockers require no more maintenence than anyother markers. Cockers are messed up b/c people(like me :P ) mess with them when they shouldn't.

[Nocturne]

Originally posted by joeyk803c@Jun 9 2005, 08:23 PM
Your friend doesn't know to to set-up a cocker then.

Cockers are no more accurate than anyother marker. Cockers require no more maintenence than anyother markers. Cockers are messed up b/c people(like me :P ) mess with them when they shouldn't.

16471


lmfao thats true comedy right there yea i'd suggest running the cocker stock un-finetuned until you get a feel for it and even if you have owned another model of cocker i'd still suggest this at least for a week

[flarkey52]

I want you guys to come shoot my gun, and then a cocker.... All I know is I have my trigger set up so well, it shoots SO much faster than most of the other DM4/5s around, and it's all 100% legal. The effieciency blows... I'll give you that.

[Nocturne]

Originally posted by flarkey52@Jun 9 2005, 09:49 PM
I want you guys to come shoot my gun, and then a cocker.... All I know is I have my trigger set up so well, it shoots SO much faster than most of the other DM4/5s around, and it's all 100% legal. The effieciency blows... I'll give you that.

16543

hrm? how is that "all you know" about your gun??

[flarkey52]

Yeah, you caught me.... :blink:
I'm not going to lie, I'm no gun tech, that's for sure....

[Nocturne]

oh hehe lol thats cool though...there should be like a PB.com gathering one of htese days hehe if there already is imma dumb ###### dont mind me

[Vcc2cc]

DM4, 100% all the way

[rampingboard101]

karnavor
once you shoot one you know why
if you did get a karni then get an MQ valve
it makes the dm4 look pathetic

[thePredator_157]

Originally posted by flarkey52+Jun 9 2005, 10:50 AM-->
HAHA, Karni more accurate?? I don't really see how you can possibly get anymore accurate than a DM4 in the first place..

DM4 are much quiter, they kick MUCH less, MUCH easier to take care of, don't have that retarded block coming back... I guess the only way to choose is to try out both, but matrixes of any kind are definately the way to go.

16037
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<!--QuoteBegin-Tippmann07@Jun 9 2005, 02:04 PM
I agree, My friend traded his viking for a karni, and quickly traded that for a dm4... so that says something karni couldnt rip at all... had more kick then my dm4 and was less accurate...or maybe it was just me him and the other 5 ppl on the team...hmm* :rolleyes:

i got yo back flarkey dm4 shooters band together* :P

16107



u guys are wacko karnivores are more accurate have way less kick and are by far the better gun period.

[spammer]

Karnivor 54 cycles per second!! (now tell me what&#39;s so bad about that?)

http://www.gizmos-uk.com/Video/Karnivor_Movie.wmv

[the pimp fenix]

Originally posted by flarkey52@Jun 9 2005, 11:50 AM
HAHA, Karni more accurate?? I don&#39;t really see how you can possibly get anymore accurate than a DM4 in the first place..

DM4 are much quiter, they kick MUCH less, MUCH easier to take care of, don&#39;t have that retarded block coming back... I guess the only way to choose is to try out both, but matrixes of any kind are definately the way to go.

16037



if u wanna know a good matrix website go here. i havent tried it out, but i have heard good things about it.

http://paradisx.ho8.com/index.php?cat_id=9...e31e23a6572a401 (http://paradisx.ho8.com/index.php?cat_id=9&PHPSESSID=b848a1f3065d087bae31e23a6572a401)

[spammer]

dude i didn&#39;t see a single DM4!!

[dust86]

Originally posted by Tippmann07@Jun 9 2005, 01:04 PM
I agree, My friend traded his viking for a karni, and quickly traded that for a dm4... so that says something karni couldnt rip at all... had more kick then my dm4 and was less accurate...or maybe it was just me him and the other 5 ppl on the team...hmm* :rolleyes:

i got yo back flarkey dm4 shooters band together* :P

16107

you are a queer and should be shot the karni is much better any day